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Episode #9: Should We Kick Kurbo to the Curb?

Check out this week's episode of The Conversationalist Podcast: Should We Kick Kurbo to the Curb?

Episode #9: Should We Kick Kurbo to the Curb?

On this episode of The Conversationalist we are covering all things Body Image & Diet Culture with Hayley Herms, Carmen Rene, and Dr. Alexis Conason. In the first segment, our founder and CEO, Sophie Beren, meets with body acceptance activist Carmen Rene and former Revenge Body contestant Hayley Herms. Together they cover the toxicity of diet culture, the effects diet culture has had on their personal lives, and how they now use their platforms to advocate for body acceptance. We then meet with expert Dr. Alexis Conason who gives her thoughts on the dangers on Weight Watcher’s newly launched diet app, Kurbo, that is designed for children as young as seven years old.

Want to learn more about our guests and the amazing work they're doing? Read below and connect with them on social media!

Carmen Rene is a model, activist, speaker and Lymphedema Warrior on a mission to help others on their journeys towards body acceptance. Carmen realized her true purpose in helping others challenge our notions of beauty by empowering women around the world to feel beautiful in their own skin. Born with primary lymphedema, a rare, long-term condition where excess fluid collects in tissues causing swelling in the legs and feet, Carmen wanted to share her own experiences and insecurities on her path to self-acceptance and self-love. In 2017, she created @EatTheCakeToo on Instagram. Her honest, fearless, and thought-provoking posts challenge the unrealistic standards of beauty and breaks down the stereotypes surrounding fat bodies, which struck a chord with men and women across the globe. Be sure to follow her on Instagram and Twitter, and subscribe to Carmen on YouTube to watch her vlogs and inspirational talks!


Hayley Herms is a plus size entertainer & content creator, including but not limited to modeling, acting, songwriting, and more! Hayley is an entrepreneur with a love for life and she shows her community how to change the world by FIRST changing themselves through unconditional love & fearlessness! Earlier this year, Hayley starred in an episode of Khloe Kardashian’s hit tv-show, Revenge Body, and is determined to let everyone know that her size does not determine her worth. Be sure to follow Hayley on Instagram @hayleyhermsofficial, Twitter, and YouTube to keep up with everything going on in her life, and be sure to check out her modeling classes for aspiring plus size models and/or plus size models that need help boosting themselves to the next level! 


Alexis Conason, Psy.D. is a licensed psychologist in private practice in New York City. Her practice specializes in the treatment of overeating disorders, body image dissatisfaction, and sexual functioning. She is the founder of The Anti-Diet Plan, an online mindfulness-based program to help people stop dieting, start eating with more attunement to their bodies, and live lives filled with joy, peace, and pleasure.  

She is a regular contributor to Psychology Today and writes the “Eating Mindfully” blog for their website. She has been widely featured in the popular press including Oprah Magazine, Elle, Teen Vogue, and many more. Dr. Conason is a fierce advocate for helping people recognize and question the societal norms that encourage feeling not good enough about themselves so that they can live their most fulfilling lives-- at any size! You can find Dr. Conason on the web at as well as Twitter (@conasonpsyd), Facebook (Alexis Conason, PsyD), and Instagram (@theantidietplan).


We enjoyed hearing what YOU had to say about body image & diet culture in this week’s segment, focusing on Kurbo, the Weight Watchers app for kids. Our goal is to feature multiple points of view to give our listeners a well-rounded understanding of this week’s topic and topics to come. Want to keep the convo going? Subscribe to our show today and leave us a review! Want to be featured on an upcoming episode of The Conversationalist podcast? Here’s what to do:

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